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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 25, 2010 0:14:58 GMT -5
Well I guess, although having most of the ministers and generals against their wills would be an issue, since they could go behind his back and stuff, or work in secret with Yi Ui-min or something. And I didn't think confucianism really was an issue yet, besides, I thought they mentioned that Kyung Dae Seung was a buddist at some point, like when him and Duduel were talking. As for Huh Seung, he seemed slightly ambitious, like the people were a factor, but the power was more important to him.
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 25, 2010 0:22:48 GMT -5
And Huh Seung just didn't have the natural leadership skills Kyung Dae Seung has, he spent almost all of his time as a yes man to someone else, even if he was just using them as a means to an end, he never really had some of the qualities Kyung Dae seung has that would make him an amazing emperor.
And yeah, that is always amazing.
AND OH YEAH, that new guy from the military Kyung Dae Seung said that about, That was Huang Hee from Sejong!
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Post by tim on Oct 25, 2010 7:25:29 GMT -5
all of eastern civilization was greatly influenced by confucianism, which STRONGLY stressed loyalty to the monarch. its why loyalty to the king no matter how much of an idiot he is is always considered a heroic trait among most face characters in korean dramas, it was just a cultural value of the upper class.
huh seung was ambitious but there's nothing wrong with that really. he was still dedicated to the people. sure he wanted power for himself, but as long as he was still dedicated to helping the people who cares.
and of course no one is as good as kyung dae-seung. its just too bad he's a pussy about overthrowing the king.
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Post by tim on Oct 25, 2010 7:25:51 GMT -5
HUANG HEE!!! i miss sejong.
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Post by tim on Oct 25, 2010 21:49:23 GMT -5
"General Du, judging by your sword and armor, I assume you have come to take my head."
"Your judgment is correct."
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 25, 2010 23:18:44 GMT -5
When did confucious live anyway that he could have such a huge impact?
Either way, it is good to be loyal to the king, it's just that in Kyung Dae Seung and Du Kyung Seung's cases, they are too loyal, although that is their job to be loyal asthey are paid to do what their king tells them, and most of the problem isn't really the king as much as it is the incompetent royal court's, but all at once the king's weakness is what keeps them in office, so in the end they think they are doing the right thing...
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 25, 2010 23:29:16 GMT -5
...but in reality are contributing to the problem by staying loyal and doing what would be the right thing. Kyung Dae Seung isn't so much as he's more loyal to a fault, weither it be to his king or to his subordinates, which fucks him over in the end, making him weak.
Well that would be true about huh seung, assuming his purpose wasn't corrupted like Yi Ui Bang, and he seemed the type who would be seduced to that point by such power.
And yeah, I forgot how awesome he was. Ahh Sejong...
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 25, 2010 23:32:04 GMT -5
...It was the end of good korean dramas, and it gave birth to the emperess era of awfulness, but I remember it for the good times...
And AWW YEAH, that was awesome.
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Post by tim on Oct 26, 2010 21:45:06 GMT -5
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
CHONGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!!!!!!!
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 26, 2010 22:57:48 GMT -5
The cool thing about his death was that it wasn't unexpected, but still really sad with how they built it up with the cool dream sequences, which were awesome.
It just pisses me off that they cut it short! No respect for the great chongoon.
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Post by tim on Oct 27, 2010 21:50:55 GMT -5
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMNNN that was a great episode. the empress dowager freaking out was amazing. and the death of dobang was really sad  also, when duduel and kyung dae-seung's spirit were talking, not only was it an awesome scene, but when they were talking about the grim future of koyro, and nomad invasions, they were talking about the mongols. |
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 27, 2010 23:32:07 GMT -5
Yeah, she done flew off the handle it was awesome.
Yeah, it was, it was an awesome honorable death fight for them though
Oh yeah! I forgot that was the era of Ghengis Khan. So Chosun is what comes after Mongol rule? It's awesome they made reference to that though, and that scene in general was amazing, along with the badass narrator's discription of his life and how awesome he was.
Yi Ui Min's reaction to Kyung Dae-seung's death was good too.
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 29, 2010 20:24:36 GMT -5
I love how funny Yi Ui Min found the fact that General Choi or whatever his name is is now in control of the government, and how everyone laughs in his face like the joke he is.
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Post by tim on Oct 31, 2010 7:08:28 GMT -5
daaaaamn, next episode preview. yi ui-min POINTIN at general cho. nigga gon' get wrecked.
and hahaha "drinking in broad daylight --"
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Post by Mario the black knight on Oct 31, 2010 12:30:57 GMT -5
Awww yeah, you know pointin is reserved for people who are REALLY REALLY mad!
I wonder when Yi Ui Min is gonna kill that bitch. It'll be nice when it happens
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 1, 2010 21:55:01 GMT -5
Damnnnn, one of the few good bitches in the royal court is dead
And H A HA HA HA H HA HA HA, Manjok
I just find that name hilarious. He would have had a lot of trouble in school, had he gone there
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 1, 2010 21:55:51 GMT -5
Also, the reunion of Yi Ui Min and Duduel was awesome.
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Post by tim on Nov 2, 2010 0:19:31 GMT -5
ui-min's actor does the best surprised expression ever.
and yeah, the empress dowager was probably the best female character in korean drama history
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 2, 2010 0:23:27 GMT -5
Yeah. WHUUDAH!?!? I need to find his name again
Indeed. She done held down the bidness
I just remember that one scene where like, before Chung Jung Bu was executed, where she goes to visit him, and like, they chat like friends instead of political enemies, she set him up to be killed, and she still respected him for all the years they knew each other, it was just awesome.
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 2, 2010 0:37:17 GMT -5
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Post by tim on Nov 3, 2010 8:04:44 GMT -5
that was one of the more boring episodes yet lee deok hwa has to be the best actor ever |
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Post by tim on Nov 3, 2010 8:06:51 GMT -5
also that episode was weird and didnt make sense. the emperor brought ui-min back to help strengthen the imperial command, but it continued to fall as usual through the time shift with absolutely no reference to ui-min's role or the emperor trying to use him, which is why he was brought back, etc. and since the emperor brought ui-min back to protect the imperial house, why would he go commission this history that could destroy him.
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 3, 2010 12:02:23 GMT -5
I think the whole point of all that is he is a shitty emperor. It was the Empress Dowagner's idea to bring Yi Ui Min back, and she died before she could make him do anything really effective, so he's lost without a plan. He's just doing whatever anyone tells him, because he sucks. He doesn't know what to do, so he does that because he's stupid and desperate.
And yeah, Lee Deok Hwa is indeed the shit. The Shit and the urine
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Post by tim on Nov 4, 2010 12:23:09 GMT -5
awww yeahhhh, shit goin down soon.
also i love old looking yi ui-min.
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Post by Mario the black knight on Nov 4, 2010 12:51:59 GMT -5
Thats da damn truth!
Yeah, and Cho won whatever has hilarious aging, how like, his eyebrows get insanely grey before his beard and hair.
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